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Post by xargon15 on Aug 5, 2009 8:58:44 GMT -5
Alright, i am having a bit of a problem with my electrical and i'm wondering what i'm missing. here's what's going on. My car starts just fine, no cranking, just first turn of the key and it's on, no problems. but when i'm driving and i have to have both my headlights on and wiper blades, the wipers lose power it seems and start going slower, and the lights dim. my turn signals won't work, they light, but the intermittent part of them just doesn't work. my fuses under the steering column i've checked and didn't see any issues with them. are there fuses elsewhere? I changed out my dash cluster for another one i had sitting around, thinking it could be the voltage regulator, but that didn't help much at all.
any help with this issue, troubleshooting, or common problems with a pacer i might be missing would be excellent.
Thanks! ~Phillip
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Post by cadipacer on Aug 5, 2009 20:51:20 GMT -5
I'd guess the typical lost "ground" since several items are effected,, amperage is drawn and drags other accessories down,,check battery cables CRIMPED type on ends,, they may appear good but rusty inside.
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Post by xargon15 on Aug 5, 2009 21:33:25 GMT -5
hey again,
My pacer is a 1979 Wagon model, 258, i took out the radio because i don't use it, the heater controls don't work, so they are never on either. I just went out to my local parts store and put in a new voltage regulator in the alternator thinking it might've gone out, no fix. battery is 1 yr old, i'm going to get a free swap tomorrow from the auto parts store too, it's still under warranty. as for the grounds i've checked multitudes of grounds all around (i have no interior, and very little else inside so it's easy to see everything) and none of them seem to be bad. Possibility that the wires themselves have corroded inside was my thought. I've always had minor electrical issues with my pacer since i got it. as for my battery cables, they're a year and a half old, nothing crazy, clamps attaching to battery have never seen corrosion, and are clean inside and out (i'm a regular maintenance kind of guy on that) but i'm still having troubles. Does anybody know the common places for grounds on the pacers that i could look for?
I know of the ones: under the rear end for the back tail lights and wiper front of car near drivers side head lamp under dash next on drivers side fender well inside next to fuse box alternator ground wire on the rack and pinion -are there others?
as for weather, i'm in lexington, ky. it's mild right now.
-phillip
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Post by cadipacer on Aug 7, 2009 5:48:14 GMT -5
Sounds like you covered your tracks,, however you MUST have a engine block ground., THEN to be safe run your own ground from the block to firewall, that totally connects the ground system. I'm in Louisville ky another: phil
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Post by xargon15 on Aug 7, 2009 8:27:02 GMT -5
hey cadipacer, thanks for your advice! i'll be blunt when i say i've never worked on a car before to this extent. this is my second car i've ever had (i'm 23) and my first i did little things on it, brakes, alternator, belts (it was a 93 Ford Escort). but it failed in comparison to the work i've been putting into this. and because of that, and not knowing "exactly" what i'm doing, i'm learning as i go. while under the hood, i started to look around again, and saw the little wire coming off my neg battery terminal that i never thought about again after i bought the cables over a year ago (i thought it was maybe an inline fuse of some kind) and began to wonder about it, so i googled that, and realized that it was the cable that needed to be grounded to the firewall to complete the ground circuit :/ ooops! needless to say, i wired it up, lights on on bright, wipers full speed, turn signals work, but still can't get the intermittent to work perfectly, the kinda go on, sit, and then off *shrugs* any suggestions on that? lol. anyway, thanks for the help again! and it's nice to meet another ky phillip!
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Post by xargon15 on Aug 8, 2009 19:49:17 GMT -5
hi again, thanks again for help, but i figured out the problem on the intermittent wipers as well. it was just a small relay that i didn't notice (top of fuse box labeled t/s) at first, and now that it's replaced everything works fine. thanks for the help!
- phillip
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Post by cadipacer on Aug 12, 2009 12:48:31 GMT -5
Glad you found problem.. you need to keep a eye out for a pacer parts car for future parts,,, delay wiper switch and relay box etc,, wiper motor,, windshield... etc... whats your location?
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Post by xargon15 on Aug 14, 2009 18:52:15 GMT -5
hey cadipacer, you may not believe me but this is my parts car i'm driving, i'm driving it, working on the engine while it's running so i can understand/fix problems on it, while i do body work on the car i plan on restoring. then when the body/suspension is ready in the other car, i'll swap the motor, and sell the body/frame to this car after stripping off all useful/hard to find items (being a pacer guy i doubt i'll have to explain those to you) but hey, thanks for the idea
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